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27. David Nico on Supporting Wellness for Your Employees

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In the U.S., about 70% of people are overweight, and about 40% are obese.

Over the last 30 years, there’s been a threefold increase in overweight children.

This isn’t healthy for us, our families, or our teams. In this episode of the Leadercast podcast, David Nico, a peak performance strategist, keynote speaker, certified coach, and author of Diet Diagnosis, will explain how health optimization can positively influence work culture.

“A poor diet, the drug culture--I want to emphasize--this is not normal,” David said.

This is the leader cast podcast, helping you be a leader worth following. Hello and welcome to another episode of the leadercast podcast. I'm Haley Panagakus, your host for this episode. So our content theme for June two thousand and nineteen at leadercast is balanced. And when we think of balance in business we often think about work life balance, that constant tension that exists between our home and our work lives. So a part of this balance involves our wellness. And when it comes to balancing wellness at work, well, I'm sure we've all fallen prey to stress eating, you know, when we get lacks on our nutrition and swap healthy foods for snacks and sweets and carbs as a treat or reward to ease or balance the high amount of stress that we're feeling at work. I know I'm not alone in this. Well, this is something we think about most on an individual level, but organizations have a part to play in ensuring employees are set up to succeed in their wellness journey, and this episode of the leader past podcast where honored to welcome an expert and health to share with US why leaders and their organizations should get health right, not just for themselves but for their teams. We're joined by David Niko, who is a peak performance strategist, you know, speaker and certified coach whose passion is to help leaders live well so they can model vitality, inspire vision and create a legacy. David is author of Diet Diagnosis and his company Dr Health not is on a mission to use the power of health education to transform organizations and lives. But before we jump into that, I want to note this episode is brought to you by leader cast now, and here is a quick message. Leader cast now is an online resource for your leadership development. Get the solutions to your leadership challenges on any device at the moment you need it. To learn more, go to now doubt leader castcom. Now let's get back to the episode. Here is my conversation with David Niko. So, David, welcome. Thank you so much for joining the show. We're so excited to have you. Thanks, Hayley, it's an honor to be here. So do you just want to start by sharing with our listeners a little bit about your background? Absolutely yes. I started in the Health Industry about twenty years ago, studying business and health science and college where I was primarily focused on the physical dimension of Health, namely Diet and exercise, and after completing my master's I enrolled on a doctoral leadership program will working in the corporate world for one of the fastest growing franchise companies at that time. We were coaching conducting life seminars to help the franchises grow other businesses. But it was during this experience that I kept noticing these businesses had employees with personal health issues, which fueled my thirst for more health knowledge. So I transition from the leadership program to start my consulting company, Niko ventures, enrolled on a holistic health and nutrition program to further explore the health dimensions fully, as I believe we are multi faceted. So, after three and a half years of course work finalize in the dissertation on health and nutrition and how it impacts leadership and organizations, I started consulting with healthcare professionals to advise them on functional and Integrative Health Therapies, for example, weight loss, nutritional ingredients, targeted dietary products, advanced nutritional testing and even designing custom nutritional products and programs, resulting in multimillions and additional revenue. But most importantly, to help people get well. So, in terms of societal and advancing a culture of health, like you said, I started the doctor health and not brand with really using the power of health education to transform lives through weekly health newsletter, producing health tips to ...

...air on national television networks, creating content for my first book, interviews of media outlets and speaking a love of events. So I've also I'm also on the process of developing two new books. One will focus on healthy leadership and the other on using food as medicines. I've interviewed dozens of high performance leaders for the healthy leadership book and receive endorsements from several New York Times best selling authors for the food books. So, in terms of our session today, we're discussing creating healthier cultures to impact organizations, which is really a primary focus for me now, to help companies implement what I've learned over the past twenty four years in lifestyle functional medicine research to help these organizations, and really look forward to getting into some of the nuts and bolts here to help optimize health in their organizations. Yeah, I'm really excited for it. So, based off of your background, I'm sure you know a lot about the our society in the US and we do have an international audience, but I just want to focus on the US because we're pretty well known for being not so healthy as a society. So do you want to just give a little example of like what specifically are we doing wrong? Yeah, it's a great question, Haley. I mean you just turn on the television, you know, you watch the ads during the sporting events. How many of these ads are on unhealthy foods or drugs? I mean it's so overwhelming. The mind washing at the majority of Americans take at least one prescription drug daily and yet only a very small percentage of the population gets enough fruits and vegetables in this country, which is known to protect against a plethora of lifestyle diseases. So poor diet the drug culture. I want to emphasize this is not normal, as in many gates is the need for drugs really stem from nutritional deficiencies and the term epigenetics, or our lifestyle choices, which is influencing gene expression. So the point is it's important understand what is wrong, because we can't fix what we don't acknowledge as a problem. But but it's not enough. To acknowledge it. You know, a popular saying Alia is knowledge is power. That's not true. Only applied knowledge is power. We have to think action. So I start. I want to start with some data, not to overwhelm the listeners, but to show that we must be intentional about change if we want to see a difference in our culture and organizations. So you are absolutely correct that they're really in America there's just a growing decline and wellbeing. You know this. This country we have the highest GDP of the nation and yet the US health is disadvantaged compared to other developed nations. You know, think fast food nation. So, for example, to put this in the specifics, we have a higher mortality rate, poor health at birth. Overweight and obesity is the number one problem in the US. About seven out of ten overweight and about four out of ten or o bees and this is linked to many lifestyle diseases. So higher BMI, or body mass index, is linked to a much higher risk for type two diabetes, party of vascular disease and some cancers. This is this is what's even more shocking, Haley. One out of six children today or old beache and, and this is even remarkable, over the last thirty years we've had a threefold increase in overweight children. So since the S and early S we've seen it three times overweight population in our children. Now twenty five percent of our military service members are rejected for weight issues, as this was addressed even at a recent military leadership. Of that, fifty percent of adults have chronic diseases. And that's not that's only just what's reported. That's not the estimated eighty four million Americans that have pre diabetes...

...and by two thousand and fifty one out of three Americans will have. This is the projections fullblown diabetes. This is a absolute tragedy. So, and I mean I'm just scratching the surface, cancer and heart disease the highest, even more so than diabetes, related to our lifestyle choices. The US spends three point three trillion on healthcare. Yet what is the Roi? What are we doing? Are we using the right tool to fix the problem? You look at the cost that we spend, two hundred and twenty six billion per year and direct medical expenses. This does not even include the ancillary factors such as productivity, absenteeism, presenteeism. So what is it? What's the point. The bottom line is this translates into tenzero dollars per person and healthcare cost. This is why what I describe it's the most expensive in the world. So, in a nutshell, it's not working. It's really expensive. So what we're talking about here is in need for a massive transformation in organization, not a fad, but where we make a healthy culture as a priority, and culture and organizationally, we have ways to go in the United States. Yeah, so bringing that back around for our international listeners, do you have an example of a culture that's getting health right? You, as is a great example of what not to do. So I'm curious what your thoughts would be on who's doing it well. Yes, now I want to preface all of what I just said that in terms of modern medical technology, research, top hospitals positions, the US is the leader. So we are doing a great job in terms of crisis care medicine. But here's the playing Haley. Most of our issues are not crisis it's lifestyle. So we're failing areas of lifestyle, diseases that are mostly preventable. Now, in terms of a culture, which is another great question, that's getting it right, there are many factors to look at. But in terms of developed nations, the country that really stands out to me is Japan. They are tops in terms of life expectancy, lowest and inframortality, and they're those by a huge margin in obesity. Three point seven percent, wow, compared to the US describe. That's almost almost four out of ten, a huge difference. In Japan only spends an average of four thousand five hundred nineteen dollars per person on health. This is less than half of what the US spends on health and we have a significantly larger GDP. As I mentioned. So much of it related to lifestyle factors, especially diet. But this does not mean they're lacks on healthcare, traditional healthcare. They have an excellent healthcare system which costs much less than the US. But in terms of diet, they are specially use seafood vegetables, which are phido protective and very nutrie and death. So we look at Japan, they generally consume higher levels of the seaweed and I dine mineral rich foods plus heart healthy fish. Their diet is higher in a make it three fatty as did, which, by the way, you can only get in the Diet. You have to consume it or supplement and fermented foods, which supports gut and brain health. They consume herbal teas, which are shown to support healthy circulation, gut health and metabolism. So all around and and of course they have physical activity. They're moving. Now I will preface that as well and say with some of the indoctrine nation of US culture, fast food nation, we're starting to see some of that chain. So anytime we see the prevalence of the the really the influence into these other countries, you see those statistics start to change. So that's what we don't want. You want to...

...learn from what they're doing well and implement that into our culture. Yeah, so we've been looking at a overview of like where we are as a culture and our societies. But can we bring this back to organization? We know why health is important for us as individuals, but why is health also good for business? You've kind of touched on that already. And what can organizations be doing to support and courage good health and the organization's yeah, well, let me share one major study out of John's Hopkins University, published in the Journal of Obesity about a year and a half ago, jode and demonstrated through evidence based research that half of the cost of overweight is from and this is in the workplace, from productivity loss is due to missed workdage, not just direct medical expects. For example, a young adult who goes from obese to overweight, say they quantified this, saves an average of seventeen thousand six hundred fifty five dollars in medical cost and productivity losses where his or her lifetime. If they go, I'll think about this, if they go from obese to a healthier way, the saving jumps to Twentyzeros. So and even for a Middle Age adult it's even higher. The savings even higher on society. And this impacts the workplace. So you ask, how you know? How does this impact business? How is this good for business? Will based on the research and based on what we know. I'm imagine this, Haley, a healthier workforce with reductions in insurance premiums and cost, versus less healthy workforce where the cost of insurance is higher and keeps increasing, which we've seen every single day in our country. HMM. Another benefit, if you will, is less absenteeism and present heism at work or at home versus higher missed work days, being sick at work, potentially spreading it to other workers, which increase or how about this one? Higher Productivity on the job versus poor health leading to less effective this at work. That seems pretty obvious. Yeah, better company reputation. This is not as obvious. Boosted vowels are values added, studs and lifestyles of employees, community relations versus a poor reputation, a negative perception that will not attract top talent. How it is so important today in the workplace. What the best talent will we need to make it attractive? A higher share price in terms of companies on the SP five hundred those company prioritize health, versus a lower valuation of companies who do not care for their people well. So we're talking about wellness here. So in unnecessary senses, from healthier workforce versus poor health, they leads to many negative cost so how about an abundance of compassion in the workplace to increase in business, and it really at all levels where there is good health, and this affects all dimensions of health in the workplace. So my point is only addressing just in medical expenses. Is costing organizations. We need to focus on optimization. That's a key word, optimization. So Corporation, specifically those who are the leaders, have the greatest opportunity to impact these statistics. They have to be focused, though, and have an intentional action. So how do we find health? Is it just the absolute disease note? It's vitality, it's optimization, the speak performance. So instead of focusing on this, this is how it's been sort of in the culture, this is where we've been indoctrinated. How not to get heart disease, are how not to get cancer, not to get stroke, not to get diabetes? We should not be asking those questions. We should be saying how can we maximize our health? How can we maximize our vitality so that we can perform at our best, leading to higher impact organizations. So this optimization focus is on key lifestyle factors, diebetrician physical activity,...

...stress, resilience, quality, loving relationships, community connection and support. All of this impacts the organizational health. Now this is where we get the term holistic health, which is covering really all the dimensions of health, spiritual and body. So this is the key word. I really want to emphasize that we're not just eliminating disease. We're we're helping to experience health optimization. And as an example, it's like an elite athlete in the Olympics. For Professional Sports, they're not focused on hey, how can we eliminate disease? Right, so I can perform by a best but peak performance. So this is what we're doing to empower leaders and teams at the right information tools, resources and skills so they can see this implemented. So what are some tactical ways that organizations can encourage this peak performance and wellness and health and organizations? Yeah, so the way we do things, or culture I will say, is not easy to transform. It takes time, I mean that's the honest truth. But when culture is optimized it impacts the entire organization, team members, their energy, mental, physical, emotional. The clarity that permeates throughout the organization carries over into impacting all stakeholders, suppliers, customers, employees, everyone. So, in a nutshell, means that the leaders value health, the organization values health, people value health and thus it impacts everything. But it starts with the values or the set of beliefs in the organization, which is driven by the leaders so if we can impact the leaders to embrace these principles, they can in turn integrate these principles into the Organization for the benefit of other people. This has reverbary and effects because it impacts their families, the communities and ultimately society. Haley, it all adds up. I mean if we focus on helping their teams addressed, here's the key, those small decisions that impact health over time. is where the research focus on the small decisions. Sometimes the ship will shift of funds and budget or being more creative during planning for the year. What you prepare and plan for is more likely to happen versus. Hey, we just hope for this. Just hope it happens, you know, hope people get this bias mosis. No, specific things that seem minor but ad up over time. For example, maybe what to eat in the cafeteria, what's in event? These are very practical. What's in the vending machines? How are we catering corporate events and meetings? Are we incorporating physical activity breaks? It will, I know this will vary based on the organization. Each organization is different and there's just there's millions of millions of different structures. Okay, but one of the areas we can impact the most that I've seen in my experience, specially with events, is corporate meetings, for example. There's a there's events that I've spoken at where the food is here. I'm talking about health right delivery to health message. HMM, back of the room and what's there? All the unhealthy food. Creates this unity with the message and yet it's not there's not the action, and so you know, and it creates just you know, you see conference fatigue. People are tired. It's not feeling well well, if they're not nourishing their bodies, if they're not getting the right new trance, of course that's going to affect them. If they're not sleeping well, you know, especially those of us a travel a lot. So you look at a cost substitute healthier options and in some cases this is surprising, it actually ends up being less expensive. So it's a mindset shift on all levels. But the key is the leadership must be on board, otherwise it's not value and the leaders must model at themselves. This is goos and positor, the five exemplary facets of in characteristics of leadership. Right one is modeled away. So if they're...

...not modeling, the team members are smart. They're going to know, hey, the leaders are, you know, living this. Why should we? Right? So it's important for the participation to get everybody on board with that vision. But here's the thing. Without showing the why, it's difficult for people to buy into the what and the how. I don't even want to tackle the one in the how until we address the why. So we want to emphasize that. I want to empasize a embracing this must work with a specific company culture and aligned with their specific values. Now we know generally the die of physical activity, stress. Community play a major role. But just like an individual, will need a personalized health protocol and this is this is kind of the new thing and lifestyle medicine and research personalization. But every organization needs a customized health optimization plan and will work for their company. So it's not just say I'm going to go and you do this, you do my plan. This is the way it's going to work. Now it's understanding the culture and listening. What do they value? What's important to them? Is the real key to finding what will work best. So some leaders think will health your food options are more expensive. But you know, we have to look at the bigger picture here. It's not just the medical cost, it's the productivity, it's a sick days, it's the makeup work, it's the energy. There's so many fascists that impact the organization. And so, bringing it around, my point is it's the small my new lifestyle choices in the organization, in our meetings, in our events, that impact the organization and add up over time. So that's how we can best impact, and I gave an example of that. Yeah, so we do hast. We believe that everyone is a leader. So that could be it's not just the CEOS and the executives in the owners of organizations who would have a large part in defining the culture. It's also a middle managers and entry level. It's it's it runs the gamut. So do you have any advice for those who maybe aren't in that decisionmaking seat from a high level on how to encourage wellness in the organizations and for their teams? Absolutely, and let me clarify this, Halee, as you mentioned, the leader can be at any level. Hmm, I mean housewife who's serving their family can exemplify leadership. Characteristics for the children. So it's not just focused on one type of leader. There are many types of leaders. So you're at correct. So you think about it. Everybody, most people, have a bank account, right. So every every time we take we make a deposit. You know, we're putting something in. That's positives to credit take out. That's a debit. So it's just like debating our account. If we don't put in enough credits right into our account and we keep debating, what happens? You're going to go into the red, just like a company. To keep doing that, you're you're you're bleeding. So the same with lifestyle disease. It's same with any type of organization, community, whatever. If you really want to break down this vision, it's about transforming the nation, the world. You're working through people. What's the best for human cond now I will say that organizations play a bottle role in this, because that's where most of us spend the majority of our time we're working right, and that's where we're spending a lot of our communication, our connection relationships. So that's why I addressed a lot of that. But it can apply to anyone. So people help is a huge area, whether they're, you know, just employees. Maybe you work with others. This is not a traditional disease care model. It's again health optimization. So this means whatever product service for managing. If we're in the middle management, we're developing into product or service. We have this thought in mind. How can this impact of our value of health and ourselves? Our customers are suppliers, everyone, you know, it doesn't matter what level we're at. You know, you think about there's some companies that do really well. They...

...integrate that throughout their entire system and every employee gets that. Every person gets at. So in terms of the physical health, if one person or several people get sick, it impacts others who may get sick their immune system is not strong. This impacts the bottom line. This this impacts everything. Insurance may not, it may well, it may cover sickness, but if the premiums go but it's costing the organization and it's costing the family, it's costing the individual. So everything is passed down. So, for example, if we know that soda and Diet, so it are disasters for health. In terms of overweight, because I meant I've talked about overweight, obesity, prediabetes, diabetes. My question is, why is this readily available at many workplaces? Why are there not substitutes? Why do we not invent beverages that contribute to IMP boy that? Why are we investing in them, that are contributing to this ill health at these company breaks, these events, he's outings? We need to kick this caffeine addiction. We need to wean off of this, get nutrition to subside the sugar cravings to caffeine cravings. Now, this is a extremely I want to emphasize is extremely detailed subject. I'm just scratching the surface, but we can shift this to healthier beverages such as lower no sure beverages, herbal teas or room use flavored waters, water beverages. These things are refreshing, taste amazing. Your body will get used to it as you do it more often. Now, as an example of a company that I think is doing it really well, the Cooper clinic or Cooper robots. When I was an Undergrad, by taught an advanced weight training class at the Cooper robots center, who was pioneer, by Kenneth Cooper. He coined the term aerobos. By the way, he's almost ninety now allow. You still work. Well, he still runs, you still active. Ah, you know, I even spoke at a conference when I spoke at Lowell, India University. So we're years ago. There was a professor at Stanford that was was on the stage with me and he was almost ninety and he was running up the steps. He this lifestyle out we see, we think, we think we have to have some disease, we have to get old and you know, and this is just the way it is. It's absolutely not true. So Kenneth Cooper, back to cooper, he embrace the lifestyle health principles long before started the game amentum. And so his organization, the Cooper Brands, he's I mean it's grown exponentially and of course they're in the health, preventive healthcare field. They have an entire culture that lives it. So the Cooper Clinic, the fitness center, the spot, the hotel, you know, all of it embraces a preventive healthcare practice. They practicing what they're preaching, in other words, and they're integrating wellness into entire culture the organization. So another word is not just what they're providing to their clients, to their patients, it's what they embrace and live as a community. And so I want to make this point. It's not just for the healthcare industry. Every organization should make this health culture as a part of the strategic planning. Every middle management, every leader, even of a small team, household leaders, community leaders, nonprofit organizations embrace the health culture. It's not going away, especially in terms of individual team members. We're going to we can be better stewards of the organization. So as leaders, here's the thing, when we feel good, have more energy, thank Claire, we make better decisions for the team, which impacts the organization. And I talked about Melinda. Like I mentioned when I was here. They're one of the Global California is one of the blue zones longest with populations around the world. They don't smoke, generally a healthy diet. If great relationships, they rested age week, participate a regular physio activity. Embraced this as a community and you see the results in terms of longevity. So and and, by the way, when I was at their conference, presented at their event. They had healthy food. Was Amazing. So it can be done. Point. Yeah, so shifting gears a little bit. So we talked a lot about physical health and last month was mental health awareness month. So what would you say are the biggest threats to mental health and a workplace setting? Yeah, going back to really...

...the first part of the conversation, obesity. Studies have shown a link between anxiety and obesity, regardless of gender. So Be's adults are more likely to have depression anxiety, which all leads to additional psychological and physiological stress. M Back to the study, the Johns Hopkins Study. We can greatly impact this in the workplace by making out their choices easier for employees, the substitution principle. Substitute. So another threat, I would say, is gut health. Studies are linking the Gut Microbio on health, or lack there of, the depression. So I want to point out this is an association, not the actual cause, as there there's many factors involved. So it's not just about treating it like for some people's Ay, well, just treat with probiotics. Now such just about treating with probiotics. The gut ecosystem is influenced by lifestyle, by food, by stress. For example, GMO's found in genetically modified foods are gut disruptive. There's there's a research study and several years ago which came out had hundreds of references that showed the gut disruption when incorporating GMOs. This creates tremendous stress on the intestinal ligning, leading to syndrome such as leaky gut, which makes it difficult for people to properly digest absorb nutrients. And the key is getting the nutrients in the tissues is critical for optimal function. Additionally, I would say a lot well, this is connected the gut. A large percentage of the good hormone serotonin resides in the Gut. Many people subrain is actually in the gut, which is nected to the brain. So it's in both the gut and the brain. So they're connected through this hormone serotonin. So if the gut is in disorder, the brain is in disorder. Maybe not immediately, you don't see the immediate effects, but over time. Why are we seeing an increase in Alzheimer's if you notice that percentage is going up? It's all connected. So there is mounting evidence that the Diet is an effective therapy, if you will. Can you believe it? Diet in psychiatric disorders and this this is actually reported in a journal, I believe, the land set psychiatry. There's another study actually on sugar, the White Hall to study, which use data from over thirty years. They found a link between sugar and take and mental health climb. Now I want to emphasize this is highly process sugar that is linked to depression and other mood disorders. It's not there actually is a healthier sweetener. I wouldn't have time to get into that, but but in terms of the prom sugar, it's important to point out this did not cause the mental disorder, but it created a decline in mental health. It increased this stress response in the body which cascaded in all these hormone imbalances. So back to the John Hopkins. There is a study and, in believe, molecular psychiatry, that found that process meets nitrites. These are chemicals to cure meat contributes to abnormal mood states, INSOMNI and iyperactivity. Why have we gotten away with thinking that we can just do whatever we want, we can get away with it, eat whatever we want and just live that kind of lifestyle? We are paying the price and our healthcare. So we can address this mental health very, very powerfully and actually very simply. Yeah, so I have to ask, is there any particular diet that's like the best one, or what it like? What do you eat on a daily basis? Like what should we be eating? As my question, that's a great question and that's why I wrote Diet Diagnosis, is to navigate the maze of all these diet yeah, because it is confusing, and what I did was in the book, because I reviewed the pros and cons of each of the healthy diets and I even talked about the sad diet, just standard American IE, which is a lot of what we've been discussing.

HMM, and revealing will what will work for up an individual, because we're all designed differently and we really do have to test our bodies to find out. Now there is advanced testing that people can get into to really determine more specifically, to really tweak and optimize, which is, generally speaking, a whole foods diet, getting back to the real food that we were intended to eat, that our bodies metabolized properly. Start there. I mean, and I'm again this is a extremely detailed subject. Okay, yeah, this next book that I might I've already written about two hundred fifty pages on it right, just just on one aspect of food alone. So, but the point is, if we can just eliminate the sugar, get rid of the processed foods, the lack of movement in the workplace, get rid of a low quality foods, focus on high density, high nutrient dense foods. Start putting those in, like the vegetables that are, like I mentioned in the Japan, like the seaweed right there in a lot of it. Are incorporating those in their diet. They're getting those minerals in their diet. That's important. Most Americans are very small percentage. Get the necessary requirements of fruits and vegetables. Just start there, just start adding good things back to the Diet and then we can tweak it from there. Okay, so I'm trying to keep it very, very basic right now. I don't want to overwhelm people because it's a lot fat. Yet, example, we have to get those in the Diet. You can only get those through diet. So, for example, GIA siege, which is the vegetarian version, or in fatty fish like wild shocky salmon that in those amiga free fatty acids, which is good for our brain. We miss the thing clearly. So, whether you're vegetarian or not, there are choices to get those nutrients in the Diet. Some, of course, supplement but you got to be very careful well, because there's a lot of poor quality supplements today, so you really have to know what you're doing, make sure that they're tested, they're free of heavy metals. Just there's so many facets to it, but I would just recommend trying to get in food first. Start with the food. To some people like will just supplement it, supple in the Diet. No, that's not going to change the foundation of health, which is diet. MMM, so, good question, but it's the priority is to create healthier environments where multiple dimensions of health stress, diet, exercise, we make it a priority. Not only impacts the lives of individuals, of families, of Co workers, but the organization will benefit. So you know, mental health. Really smart leaders and employers can protect and prevent mental health and all really all health issues by getting the right information about health and designing a strategy and implementation plan to integrate this into the culture. I'm not saying this is easy, but it is optimal for the health of our organizations really our society. HMM. So, bringing it back to our theme for the month of Balance, how do you say? Encouraging health and more place supports balance or the team and the organization? Yeah, well, it's starts and I really like to use the term optimization. So we're optimizing use of those areas of our life. But it starts with what we think, our mine, our mindset. So we have to first shift our mindset and that goes back to what yes before about the mental health and wellness is is now becoming huge in corporate America. It's really a cultural shift. So, but the thing is, like you said, it doesn't just have to be the large companies. Can Be midsized, it could be small organizations, small teams, team leader, everyone can play a part in it, implementing this into their value system. So we have to get this right, that we start with the right mindset first to address it and by maximizing the health and wellbeing of everyone in the organization, understanding this is important, no matter how big or how small. And Look, I know it takes time. It's taken me years to do this and implement many aspects and I'm constantly implementing different aspects, continually making adjustments. Research is coming out all the time. I mean you have to say on top of it's literally...

...full time, because research is amazing. Research is coming out of what optimizes help. So we're living in very exciting times. But we have to start there. is to say, yes, this is a problem, we need to address this, and then getting those tools, the skill power to be able to do it, the changes, the substitutions and and really empowering others. It's really about service, Hailey. If you think about it, it's about serving others. How can I best serve the people that I'm called to serve? You serving leadership. How can I help others? How can I serve them, no matter if it's one other person, if it's two people, if it's five and ten, a hundred, five thousand, Tenzero, a million, millions in all, a billion. How we want to go with this? Okay, it's about service and if you really care about someone, if you care about a team, if you care about our organization, you say, how can I help these people? What can I do? Why? It's going to benefit everybody. It's going to benefit the company. So we start there and then we can start addressing these different dimensions. We can address the stress, we can address the Diet, we can address the physical activity, we can address the mental health, we can address all those different components because they're all connected. And when we do them, when there with the plan and we have a strategic focus on that and we incorporated into the value the system, into the mission, into embedding that into the culture and we start to make that shift with with small, little changes, I believe that people start to feel the difference, she the results and they're like, we want more of this. Yeah, let's keep this up. Well, they would. You've given us so much to think about as far as coming up with strategies to support health within our organizations and how it will benefit us in the long run. So what was there? Anything that I missed that we didn't cover today? Hey, I think we covered it at least on this first session. But I would like to just say I'd like to invite our listeners, if they like, to visit my website, David Nikocom they can sign up for free health tips. I also share announcements of the new books or programs, and listeners may even want to enquire about presenting at their corporate of then or a leader may even want to discuss this further how to create an implement a unique culture of health, and the organization happy to help with that. But I'm extremely excited about the healthy leadership book. I've been developing this over several years. I believe it will make a big difference in the lives of every leader and the organization. I know we've discussed a ton of information, but I really want to leave with just one simple thought, and that is every leader has the potential to help their organizations get healthier. Yeah, and today you've provided us ways in which we can go about doing that. So thank you so much, David, for taking the time out of your day to share all of this great information with us. Really appreciate it. Thank you. It's been wonderful listeners. Thank you for tuning in today. You can find more from David by visiting Dr Health notcom. Please share this podcast and be sure to subscribe. See you never miss an episode and we will see you here next time for another episode of the leadercast podcast. Thanks for tuning in to the leader cast podcast. To ensure that you never miss an episode, subscribe to the show in your favorite podcast player.

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